Mckinnon Heating Cooling

Formerly Preferred Air Ltd
Heating & Air Conditioning
Toronto ON M3J 3G5
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N Leslieville
N Leslieville
1 review Toronto, ON
10/10

A/C did not work

A/C was not working. I filled a online request for a service call, and received a call, and a appointment was made. At the time of the call the charges were told to me. Technician arrived in the window as promised. Techinician checked all possible problems, was very thorough, explained in detail what could be wrong, what my options were. He was actually a very friendly guy, unlike some service tech's I have dealt with. He fixed the problem and I believe if a company fails in their service promise to tell them, on the otherhand if a company delivers on their service plan, you should let them know...this company delivered.

Approximate cost of services:
$170.00
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Anne (downtown Toronto)
Anne (downtown Toronto)
3 reviews Toronto, ON
0/10

Repair of combination water and space heating system

Mckinnon was called in to repair an on-demand heating system that would not maintain the flame for more than a few seconds and would spontaneously turn on when there was no call for heat. Four visits (two different technicians- one completely incompetent), 6 weeks, $650 dollars, several parts ordered, at least 10 phone calls to Mckinnon and still all the same problems remained and then they send a guy to sell us a $10,000 new unit because the next part needed is no longer manufactured. They say that they have billed us for the work done, but how are we to know if any of this was necessary. Nothing they did ever fixed anything. They say that we have to trust them that everything they did was necessary. How are we supposed to trust them when nothing they did made the boiler work? We were living in the cold and without hot water for weeks. When I talked to the company president Michael he admitted "we dropped the ball on this" but they stand by their work. What does that mean? He offered no refund whatsoever and he suggested we take him to small claims court so we can waste even more time dealing them. I wish I saw these reviews ahead of time since others appear to have the same problems repeatedly. I checked the Better Business Bureau rating for this company and it is an F. They have 3 complaints against them and have not responded to them. I suggest people report their problems on this forum and contact the city contractor licensing board at licenf@toronto.ca STAY AWAY FROM MCKINNON.

Our complaint is not that the boiler needed replacing. The problem with Mckinnon was that they kept charging us for yet another thing they claimed would "fix" the problem, but nothing they did fixed anything. We had four visits from them and had to call them repeatedly to get a response, and they continued to charge us more and more. They only offered to refund the charges for the useless work that they did if we gave them another $10,000 for a whole new system. We went elsewhere and got the job done for a third of that price. If they were so unfamiliar with the heating system, they shouldn't have taken the job and charged us for their unsuccessful "trial and error".

Approximate cost of services:
$650.00
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Company Response

This is a unique situation as despite our best attempts to rectify the problem with this Baxi Luna Model 24Fi wall-hung combination boiler, Serial # A93003884 we were told by the North American distrubutor, Marathon Group, that the control board this unit requires is no longer made nor available. In this situation, we could only recommend the replacement of the boiler. As fact, we did not install this specific boiler, we were only contacted to service it. As a service provider, we are often limited by the technical support and parts availability of our respective suppliers. As it is easy in a forum such as this to "bash the contractor", we are very proud of the fact that we have thousands of clients who are very satisfied with the level of service we provide. It is unfortunate but inevitible that on occasion, a client will feel that we did not deliver on our promise to deliver service excellence.

Peter in Rosedale
Peter in Rosedale
2 reviews Toronto, ON
1/10

Boiler Repair

Should be Mckinnon Heating and Terrorists.

I have been a Mckinnon customer for 15 years. Two days ago I called them because the heat exchanger in my boiler was blocked. I needed it repaired ASAP so I could turn the heat back on. The temperature outside was -15C and my house has 100 year old "insulation".

Upon arrival, they immediately red tagged it and disconnected it from the gas supply. I asked if they could please repair it for the short term and they said it was not worth repairing. I asked that they please keep the gas water heater running and they said they could only do that if I agreed to buy a new boiler from them. I said I was not looking to shop around and they left it running.

They then sent their salesman over to sell me a new $9000 system. They also said before they would work on a replacement I would need to remove some asbestos, install a newer chimney liner, build a small furnace room in the basement etc. Then they lent me some small electric heaters from Canadian Tire.

I contacted another company for a second opinion. They said that although the unit was quite old, what it really needed was a good cleaning. I asked Mckinnon to do this and they again refused saying it was not worth it.

I had the heat exchanger cleaned and restarted the heating system. This was just in time as the water pipes to our top floor had already frozen. If the pipes had burst it would have done substantial damage to our property.

The next morning I woke to find Mckinnon trucks in front of my house disconnecting my gas at the meter. They not only turned off my heat, but also shut down my 3 gas fireplaces and water heater. It seems that if I am not going to buy a new system from them that I am not allowed to have any heat in the house at all.

I then contacted another company - Laird and Son - who was able to send someone over immediately. Their technician inspected the whole installation and found no problems. Then then turned the gas meter back on and ran several computerized tests before certifying it as safe.

The moral of this story is buyer beware. Seek a second opinion. While Mckinnon focused on finding problems and holding me hostage, Laird and Son found immediate solutions and worked through the problem. In future, I will be giving my business to Laird and Son.

I gave Mckinnon a "1" only because the salesman left the small electric heaters as he bolted out the door. I would give "Laird and Son" an "11" if the web site would let me go that high.

Approximate cost of services:
$9,000.00
What could this company do to improve their services?
Get out of the heating business and consider selling time share condos.
Any advice to offer fellow homeowners facing a similar project?
Do your home work. Get at least two opinions. If at any point the company makes you feel uncomfortable, ask them to leave.
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Company Response

On January 4, 2010 at 3:13 AM, we received an email from this client that reads verbatim "The fire department was just here and shut off our furnace for a CO2 alarm. It's -15 and the heat in the house won't last long. Can you please call me back first thing in the morning to arrange an emeregency repair?"
At approximately 9 AM on January 5th our technician arrived at the client's home to find a 20+ year old boiler that was unsafe and as such was "red tagged" and disconnected. At 10 AM our salesperson was at the home with 5 portable space heaters and quoted the client some replacement options. In the interim, the client chose to "clean" the boiler himself and due to this, we would assume no responsibility for his work and thus would not re-attend to turn the boiler on. However, to protect the client's safety, we did re-attend on Wednesday, January 6th and turned off the gas meter (This was advised to us after consultation with Enbridge Gas Distribution).
At Mckinnon, we always do our best to place our client's safety before anything else, even profit.

David in Riverdale
David in Riverdale
1 review Toronto, ON
10/10

Replacement of 35 y/o Furnace

After moving into our home and running our furnace for a year we decided to get it checked out as there was a hint of gas smell in the air (and you should do it anyway).

We called and got a few quotes (both time and cost) and McKinnon visited us and did a full inspection determining that the gas valve was leaking. McKinnon tried to find a replacement part - even aftermarket, but as the brand is no longer even sold (it was a Shomar, Sears furnace brand until the early 90's) could not find one.

For the replacement we got several quotes including one from McKinnon and ended negotiating with them to get a two stage variable speed Colman (same as a York model I was quoted on, just different badge) installed plus relining our chimney. The installation was made trickier by the fact that I had asked them to run the intake and exhust pipes to a hard to access place.

The serviceman who did the installation, Suari, was a true gentleman and answered all of my questions throughout the day. Suari ran some of the neatest PVC line that I have seen, out of the way, and exactly to where I wanted it. Beyond that, and this is what impressed me the most he stayed from 9:30 in the morning until midnight (there was a lot of conversion required from the old furnace to the new duct work as well as extensive PVC work) to make sure that we had heat for the night and hot water in the morning.

AS can be expected with that kind of day there were a few small things that needed to be addressed - the condensation tube needed to be re-run as he did not have enough length to reach our sink and he jury rigged something for the evening, he ran out of silicon and so had some minor caulking touchups to complete and the cementing around the new chimney duct needed to be redone as it had sagged). I left an e-mail with Barry our sales rep when Suari left so he was aware of the great service that we had provided and to ask when they would be back to complete the job.

Suari showed up at 9:30 the next morning (I had received a call at 8 letting me know he was coming) and quickly did a bang up job of finishing.

These guys arrived on time for everything, did great work, and were very communicative throughout the process. I highly recommend them.

Approximate cost of services:
$5,000.00
Any advice to offer fellow homeowners facing a similar project?
As with all renovation jobs make sure that you get multiple quotes, learn about your house and make sure that you do all of the follow through - checking references, being around to make sure that work is done as you expect it without assuming that the contractor can read your mind, and ensuring that you get what you paid for.
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daveh222, scarborough
daveh222, scarborough
1 review Scarborough, ON
10/10

new heating and air units

.Hired Mckinnon Heating and Cooling to install a furnace and ac unit. Both pieces were done on time and they cleaned up after. A perfect job.

They completed the paper work for rebate programs for us and we are completely satisfied with everything they did. I would recommend them highly

Approximate cost of services:
$7,000.00
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Richard in Toronto, Canada
Richard in Toronto, Canada
2 reviews North York, ON
10/10

Installation of gas furnace and water heater

I recently had my 60 year old, oil burning furnace and electric water tank replaced by McKinnon. Before installation they made a consultation visit and explained the installation of a new gasline into the house, pipes and venting that were required installs - where, how and why. The whole process of removing the old furnace, oil tank and water heater and installing the new equipment was painless and efficient. Special thanks to Barry Martin and Michael Nepom for their extra attention to detail and follow up post installation. And big thanks to servicemen Tony, Paul and Sal who were curteous, competant and expained the entire process while they were doing it. They were clean and respectful of my home during the installation - laying dropsheets, cleaning up and ensuring that I understood how everything worked. I have already recommended McKinnon to a neighbour who has to replace their furnace. Other companies could learn a few things about customer service from McKinnon: I am in the service industry and rarely see the excellent service that I received. Cudos to McKinnon.

Approximate cost of services:
$5,000.00
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Adam
Adam
2 reviews Toronto, ON
0/10

Repair of air handler

If only this site was around 3 years ago, I would not be out $900 dollars.

I called McKinnon heating and cooling to fix an air handler in my condo unit in 2005. Air handlers are a heating system that uses water from the hot water tank.

McKinnon was a spectacular failure in every possible way. The technician who initially responded improperly diagnosed the problem, determining that a new pump was required for the unit ($500 part).

Four more appointments had to be scheduled to install the new pump. The technicians failed to show up three times.

When the new pump was finally installed 5 weeks later, it only temporarily resolved the problem - the fix lasted about 12 hrs.

I called McKinnon to come back and fix the problem. Again they did not show up to the appointment. At that point I realized any attempt at resolution was futile.

I wrote a letter to Michael Nepon, the President of the company, explaining every detail of the situation and asked for a full refund.

Mr Nepom refused to give me a full refund. He challenged my story, and told me that my facts contradicted facts that he obtained from his staff. When I emphasized that my facts and statements were honest, he lost his temper and accused me of calling his staff 'l*ars'. He offered a 50% refund which I told him was not reasonable given all the lost work time waiting for his techs to show up, and the fact that a 50% refund would leave me with an air handler that was still broken and $450 out of pocket.

I called the manufacturer of the air handler to inquire about the issue and to see if they could refer me to a maintenance company in the GTA. The company rep I spoke to on the phone was extremely helpful (Enerzone out of London, ON) and after hearing my description was confident that I could fix the problem myself. He talked me through it over the phone, and after about 15 minutes the problem was fixed. Turned out to be a very common problem and one that any competent technician should be able to identify. The Enerzone employee sounded shocked that any tech would think that replacing the pump would fix the problem.

I thought about taking McKinnon to small claims court over the $900, but decided it was not worth it in the end as it would take too much of my time and would probably not result in a full refund.

Approximate cost of services:
$900.00
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Company Response

Hello Adam,
My offer to refund 50% (to cover our cost of labour) still stands. Should you wish to take me up on this, please contact me.

derek in north york
derek in north york
1 review North York, ON
0/10

thermostat swap out

Home owners beware. McKinnon is a bad company to do business with. They mishandled a thermostat swap which resulted in my home being 14C for weeks during November, December and January. Their techs were late or didn’t show up at all. They were not knowledgeable and they made false representations about my heating system. Now I am seeking judicial remedy against hundreds of dollars of unauthorized charges.

Approximate cost of services:
$200.00
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Company Response

I must say that it is quite ironic that a client who is so unhappy with our company, services and staff emailed me personally (after the fact) and requested a Service Contract for his heating system. It seems that we as contractors often get mixed messages from our clients: On the one hand, we make mistakes (and are viewed as almost "criminal") yet on the other hand, the client realizes the value in a contractor who shows up, tries their best and ultimately attempts to make the customer's experience a positive one. Yes, this client has pursuited this $800.00 matter in Small Claims Court (which we are defending) but when I questioned him about how his heating system is working, the answer was clearly yes, it is working well. I maintain that my staff and I always try our best and at times, we fall short of the mark. In those situations, we always remedy things as best as we can. This is precisely what happened with this specific client. Derek, I wish you the best of luck with your next heating contractor, I hope the experience meets with your expectations.

Simon in Leslieville
Simon in Leslieville
13 reviews Toronto, ON
1/10

Radiant heating repair

I called about a lack of heat in upstairs radiators.

Their first attempt at diagnosis and treatment (after a no-show on the appointment) was to replace a pump, even though it seemed to be fine. Sure enough, the new pump did not fix the problem.

The second attempt involved two guys spending several hours fiddling with boiler settings and googling on their blackberry(!) trying to figure it out. The problem was finally solved by cranking open a stuck valve they had overlooked.

Multiple messages about the bill that later came off my CC - without an invoice - went unreturned. Dates when the manager promised to get back to me after 'looking into it' came and went without a word. When I did get a response, his story about what happened changed several times. Things hit their low point in a surprisingly unpleasant phone call with the owner.

Approximate cost of services:
$1,400.00
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Company Response

Simon,
We always try our best to rectify a client's home comfort issue as quickly and as cost efficient as possible. I understand your frustration and dissapointment with our company. In light of this, I have tried my best to compensate you appropriately with a complimentary one year Protection Plan on your boiler. I am hopeful that your next experience with our company will be a more pleasant one.

Julie - Upper Beaches
Julie - Upper Beaches
2 reviews Toronto, ON
4/10

Air Conditioner

We called Mckinnon for service on an older A/C unit. Based on the age and the problem we were told that it was not worth fixing. We were told that if we purchased a new unit through Mckinnon that there would be no charge for the service call. We were very pleased with the service technician.
We purchased a new unit and were told again that there would be no charge for the initial service call. The unit was installed promptly and we again were very pleased with the service.
The dissatisfaction came when the initial service call was charged to our credit card. I spoke with Glen twice and was told that it would be refunded. The third time I called and was angry with service. The fee was finally reversed to my visa - a month after the initial charge to my card.
I wouldn't recommend Mckinnon based on the follow up service - unless you want to spend hours chasing them down!

Approximate cost of services:
$3,400.00
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Since 1934, Mckinnon Heating Cooling has been servicing the home comfort needs of the Greater Toronto Area. Mckinnon services and installs furnaces air source heat pumps, ductless air conditioning, high velocity systems, boilers, water heaters and indoor air quality accessories. Mckinnon also offers a range of service/ maintenance plans for ...
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